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Friday May 02, 2008 at 11:15 am
The Whys And Hows Of Weather Coverage


Many people were upset over last night's storm coverage and the pre-empting of two of ABC's favorite shows, Grey's Anatomy and Lost. I completely understand the frustration, but at the same time I'm in a great position to be able to know exactly the whys and hows of the business.

Whenever there is a life-threatening situation, such as last night's tornadoes, we're going to be on the air. Protecting life is our number one priority. Shows can and will be re-aired (see below for programming information).

That being said, a lot of people wondered why if the tornado warning was lifted by 9:50 why we didn't get off the air and go back to Lost!. Here is the method to the madness. If we return to programming and you get to see one second of the show, there will be no re-airing. It's not a NewsChannel 8 thing. It's not an ABC thing. It's a Screen Actor's Guild thing.

A true re-broadcast means that some of the show (even one second) was aired in that particular television market. Since none of the shows were aired, we should be able to show them -- likely this weekend -- and it not be considered a re-broadcast.

Now, that being said, I know the next question is going to be why can't you just run a ticker at the bottom of the screen and let us watch our shows? Here's the reason. First and foremost, the protection of lives and property is more important than a television show. I'm a Lost! addict and of course it's a pain to have to set my DVR to catch it later. But, if I had family members in harm's way, I'd want someone watching out for them.

There are also rules and regulations regarding disasters of any kind, weather or otherwise. If you run a crawl at the bottom of the screen, you must also verbally announce the warning as well. This protects the hearing impaired as well as the vision impaired. And, as long as there is a tornado warning, you're going to see Frank, Clint, Taft, Mike, Phil, etc. on the air. Cutting in and out of programming or covering up only the commercials will only protect those who are watching AT THAT MOMENT. If a person returns home and flips on the television, how are they to know about the coming danger?

I just hope people will understand what we're trying to do here. We don't want to upset our viewers. But, more importantly, we don't want to let down our viewers.

P.S. - Grey's Anatomy will now be aired Saturday night (5/3) at 10:35 p.m. immediately after our newscast, followed by Lost at 11:35 p.m.

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JJ
I just don't bother with Channel * because they left the editorial ethic along time ago. There are no posts because there aren't any. IF they want it, they know where to find it

KTUL Webmaster
Leslie,

I'm not sure when you were watching, but while I was watching the game (a die-hard Lakers fan) the warnings and radar were on the screen throughout the night. And, I saw Taft plenty of times during commercial breaks as well. The reason Taft didn't break into the basketball game was because there were no tornado warnings.

Leslie
Please explain why on June 8th, the NBA Basketball Playoff game, there was no icon of the severe weather that was approaching the Tulsa area? The sixth paragraph above explains why you break into programing, and in this case only during the commercials.. I wonder when at the playoff game last night, when someone came home and turned on the game, especially towards the end, there was no icon. How did they know what was gong on woth the weather? It seems to me that a sport program was more important than lets say a Grey's Anatomy or a Lost program. You let down alot of viewers with this double standard.

Brian
You people complaining about the Weather Coverage are CRAZY!

I live in Fort Smith, Arkansas and KTUL has been the station I turn to for over 25 years for my severe weather coverage. From Don to Travis to Frank, KTUL is the best when it comes to weather coverage. My only complant would be they're coverage seems to not be as intense once storms move East or Southeast of the Tulsa Metro.

All I can say is keep up the GREAT work KTUL and the weather team! Frank you might just have to do what Travis did several years ago when Travis was having to cut in over the day time soap operas. Travis said on the air, "This is life and death and more important than soap operas, if you don't like it change the channel."

Judy Ferguson
We signed up for Frank's severe weather call and were delighted that yesterday all of the phones we registered rang to warn us ALTHOUGH by the time our phones rang, we were experiencing hail over an inch in diameter. We had no warning at ALL than thought possibly it was because we don't live in Welling, as our address indicates - they just deliver our mail. Your call to someone in Welling would have been timely and welcomed. Should we talk about possibly giving us a two or three minute head's up? I was happy to know it wasn't a tornado! We live on a pennisula that juts out into the Illinois river...next to Caney Ridge and are over 11 miles from Welling, as our address indicates.

Karl Schneider
That is all fine and dandy but it doesn't even begin to excuse the idiotic way the Indy 500 race HD was killed every 5 minutes. What little WX there was in the state was on the Arkansas line moving AWAY and anybody in the path of that storm would be watching the Fort Smith station Ch40 which is closer and hasn't frittered away its time and money on junk like KTUL...and is 100% digital, according to their website. We think KTUL is operated by morons. By the way there were no tornado WARNINGS...only WATCHES. As often as teevee weatherpeople make this distinction, it seems management can't get it straight. Bah.

Karl Schneider Wagoner

krs@valornet.com

ncweathercenterblog
What a lot of the naysayers fail to realize is that with the digital transition coming in Feb. 2009, everyone with a working television should be seeing digital signals from the local stations. Most local stations, most network affiliates anyways, have two or more 'subchannels.' Depending on station management and the severity of the severe weather, programming can continue on one subchannel with a simple crawl and reminders to check in with the other subchannel, which will carry the comprehensive coverage for affected areas. At least that's one possibility for sports and syndicated programming. I'm not sure how the SAG rules would affect network shows.

Wayne Adams
Being on the air during a tornado warning is the just thing to do. If a meteorologist does not come on the air with a tornado warning in effect then his job should be in jeopardy. K.T.U.L. has always been a station that anyone in Green Country can rely on. Please continue this reputation of severe weather notification in order to save lives. Ratings do not matter when a person's life is on the line, and one can appreciate K.T.U.L. for understanding this!

njdocisin
I think what happened this weekend proves my point and that, as always, I was right.

Amy
This past Saturday, May 10th, myself and other family members had to scramble for cover from the EF-4 Tornado that devastated Picher. At that time we had only access to Joplin channels, when we would flip channels for updates, they were on regular programming. Had we had access to KTUL I know we woukd have know the direction it was moving, as well as the time it would most likely be in our area. As it was, it seemed to be almost right on top of us before we knew it. I want to say a great big THANK YOU to all of the KTUL Storm team for all the effort and hard work they put into keeping Oklahoma informed on severe weather that threatens our area!!!! Know there are those inconsiderate people who only care about their "shows", but there are many more who would rather hear if our lives are in danger. After the experience we had on Saturday I would like to say no it wasn't downtown Tulsa, and no it wasn't an F-5 Tornado, but that doesn't make it an less of a tragedy. A person stated in an earlier post that Tornados are a "Minor natural disaster". Just curious, have you seen the pictures? There is nothing MINOR about what our neighbors are going through! You should be grateful your biggest problem at the time are a few tv shows you missed, and not sifting thru what is left of your home, or making funeral arrangments for a loved one!! And the meterorologist and lackey who are covering that rash of brain stabbings, there are several numbers for Proctologist in the phone book!!

Jason Dembinski
I can't believe anyone with half a brain would say tornados are "MINOR natural disasters" and suggests that the only time that the weather team should cut in is when Tulsa has an F5 heading for it. Guess what and F0 can kill!!! KTUL covers ALL of North East Oklahoma not just Tulsa. I live in an area where KTUL is the only Oklahoma TV station that i get on my cable system so if they weren't doing such a great job of covering Oklahoma several more people would be dead. If any show is more important than a child's, parent's, or friend's life than YOU NEED TO EVALUATE YOUR LIFE!!! Also, if you feel that your tv shows are more important than weater coverage you can move to anywhere in Ottawa County (Miami, Commerce, Picher, or Quapaw) Oklahoma where there is other ABC, NBC, CBS, and FOX stations, but beware if you do move here and a tornado hits and you are watching one of these other stations besides KTUL you will get little to no warning about your life being in danger!!! I wish that our government would change laws where you could get ALL Oklahoma stations and not have to take a 2nd class station from another state that does not give you the coverage that KTUL does. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK FRANK, CLINT, TAFT, MIKE, & PHIL!!! DON'T LET THESE IDOITS THAT THINK REGULAR PROGRAMMING IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN YOUR AWESOME WEATHER COVERAGE!!!!

Josh
Someone below said that a tornado is a minor disaster. You must have never lost anyone, or been affected by one. Tell that to those who lose their homes ... or their lives.

Seems to me saving ONE life is more important than keeping many others happy to be sitting on their couches watching a TV show, most of which on ABC are available free online. Maybe you think the scroller at the bottom is enough, but I know most of us who live outside the city really appreciate being able to watch live action and know whether or not we are going to be in danger. Ten, 15 years ago, it wasn't possible to narrow a path down so much.

If a TV station was ignoring the cries of most of its viewers, it wouldn't be on the air. Apparently, those who appreciate the coverage are the majority, and those who worry only about Lost! are in the minority. That's a good thing, because if our world was full of people who don't care about others, it would be terrible.

And for the person below who said to get the dates right, the blogger WAS right. YOU, my friend, are wrong. This was posted LAST Friday .. May 2. Saturday, May 3, WAS right.

INCORRECT DATE
I see where you say the shows will be aired on Saturday (5/3). Hey idiot get your dates correct, yesterday was the 7th. Nothing worst than people who blog with incorrect dates or information, and another thing quit putting the masses in hysteria for some strong winds and heavy rains. It's Oklahoma, we're used to the strong storms in the spring.

Waterbug
This post is in reply to "Richard Smith" below. As "President of whatchamacallit", I am baffled of how you could be such a self centered *****. (Maybe that's what it takes to hold that title). "Unless there is an F5 in downtown Tulsa???? You obviously could care less about all the other people in downtown's of Oklahoma or anywhere else in the state. Move back to SoCal and take your sorry attitude with you!!!!!

While some of the warnings can seem a little bit erronious to some poeple, I would rather know what is heading in rather than what just went by causing injury and death that may have been prevented.

Donna
I never dreamed I would find myself in the minority on this but I and all my relatives very much appreciate the full coverage of the bad weather affecting our state. As being people that do not live in suburbia or Tulsa city limits we always felt left out to dry. When there were storms in Tulsa Metro area there was continious and complete coverage but as soon as Tulsa was clear you used to go back to regular programing. I guess those are the people complaining. As long as it doesn't affect them then don't interfere with thier programs.There are many thankful people that were prewarned of the dangers approaching. When the storms left Tulsa it is like no one else existed. Sorry people but you are not the state of Oklahoma there are millions of people in this state that have just as much right to know where the bad weather is as you poor spoiled brats do. Nevertheless I want to THANK YOU for your continious weather coverage and trying to help EVERYONE!!!!!!

Lowell Freeman
We interrupt your normal blog reading for the following weather advisory. That?s right readers, we have a menacing frontal cloud that could, but not necessarily, cause some damage in Beaefee Oklahoma, so let?s go right to Doppler two, and now Viper three, now back to two, now let?s read Ezekiel four and listen to the Jackson five, now let?s go to my weather room lackey to repeat what I just said. How does that look on Doppleviper IV lackey? Well there are lots of blue and red blotches and some orange spots that can?t be good, and for those of you who didn?t make it to college, if you?re under those spinning things with the frowny faces, you are totally screwed. That?s right, as a Meteorologist I can tell you that if your house is hit by a Tornado, it could, but not necessarily, sustain some structural damage, you?re thoughts on that lackey? I thought adding the word; ?structural? made it sound much more impressive. I agree lackey, and now we?ve had our first casualty from the storm, apparently a gentleman in Beaefee has stabbed himself in the brain with an ice pick, so if you?re in Beaefee you should take cover immediately, however in direct contradiction to what I just advised you, we?re sending one of our highly trained, and by that I mean expendable, storm chasers to check on this story. Are you there chaser? Yes, apparently this gentleman was a huge fan of the TV show,? Lost? who had been trying to watch it in ?High Definition? for months with an HD antenna which can receive all the other stations, but for some reason, could not receive KTUL. He had just subscribed to digital cable specifically to watch Lost, but instead, has been listening to four solid hours of repetitive, incessant weather jargon between you and Lackey. Thanks chaser, that just shows how dangerous these storms can be, but the good news is that even though our viewers missed some great shows tonight, the storm has subsided just in time for the local news! And now we?re receiving reports of a rash of brain stabbings???..

njdocisin
You people sicken me. IT'S TV!! GET OVER IT!! Geez are your lives so pathetic that all you have is your precious TV shows? Don't you have any friends or family to worry about instead of b--ching like an idiot? You people would probably be the first ones in line to complain that there wasn't enough coverage if your house got blown over. You act all high and mighty because you're going to watch some other station if they take up too much of your precious TV shows. Oooh I'm sure the folks over at channel 8 are crying right now because you aren't going to watch. No matter what KTUL does, *someone* will b-tch about it because some people are pathetic losers with a stick up their a-- who have nothing better to do. Frickin disgusting. Get a life idiots. And Karon, you're just a flat ~~~~~~~. I hope you have fun when your house gets blown away while you're watching "any other channel" that doesn't take the time to alert its viewers like KTUL.

Richard Smith
That is utter fantasy.

AGAIN, we moved to Oklahoma (and are very happy to be here), to escape the bull this "SoCal", self promoting CRAP.

The Ticker works FINE. Tornadoes are MINOR natural disasters compared to EARTHQUAKES, MILLION ACRE FIRES.....and the other assorted problems the 16 MILLION people of SoCal endure regularly.

Get over yourself. Your coverage is excellent with the tickers and the commercial interuptions. NOTHING else is needed (unless you actually have an F5 in downtown Tulsa!!!).

IF YOU DON"T UNDERSTAND? ASK THE VIEWERS. (a new thought?). See what the majority says. YES! Think about what the PEOPLE actually WANT and NEED.

AND, as noted in the many messages below.........when the storms start up......I am now programming my DVR for CABLE channels. Knowing that the network shows are GONE. (was it your intent to HURT the Major Networks even more than they are already doing to themselves?).

Sincerely,

Richard A. Smith, Pres. Progressive Engineering Corp. Hydrology/Hydraulic Subdivision Consulting Civil Engineers 918-396-3899

jeff
Some of you people really need to get over yourselves. You act as if it is a right to get to watch your TV shows every night. Well consider it a privilege to have a TV and the reliable electricity (usually) to power it and the American television networks to give you the programming (most of the time.)

And then consider yourself lucky that when a tornado is getting ready to blow your house to smitherines that Frank Mitchell & Co. will be there standing by to give you the latest information with their big fancy radar so you'll know to take cover. And then, while you're huddled in the basement or the bathroom, remember to think of all the rest of us in the 99% of the viewing area that isn't affected at all by the tornado, yet we're missing our shows. Or, if you wish, just continue to think of yourself.

Really, though, the FCC mandates that all television stations broadcasting over America's airwaves must act "in the public interest." If the FCC deems they aren't, they can lose their license. No, they don't have to break into programming all the time, and yes the crawls do present a lot of information to minimize the cut-ins, but really, you can only shove so much information into a little picture in the corner of the screen. When viewers in harms way are taking cover, they can't always take their television with them, but they can turn up the volume and listen to what the weathermen are saying.

So, really. Get over yourself and your television show, and get a clue that we as a civilization are probably using about the most effective means of communication we have to save peoples lives.

We had a very unfortunate occurence with the death of a girl this morning from the storm in Siloam Springs. But when was the last time you heard of someone dying from a tornado in this area lately? It's been a while. And I think that says something about the way we do things.

GLENDA DODSON
YOUR RIDICULOUS OVER KILL IN BROADCASTING WEATHER LIKE YOU DID (YET AGAIN) THURSDAY NIGHT IS DANGEROUS. THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE ARE SO PUT OFF BY THE HYSTERIA YOU CONTINUE TO SHOW, THEY SWITCH OVER TO A CABLE STATION.

YOU ARE DOING A DISSERVICE TO YOUR VIEWERS.

sharon
I much prefer the crawl at the bottom of the screen with an beep now and then to warn the blind folks who "watch" tv that they may want to turn on their weather radios. I'm going to check into DISH or DirectTV and if they assure me that I can watch these shows on ABC with no local interruptions, then I'm switching. With all the media we have now to entertain us - DVD players, cable channels, TIVOs, web surfing, etc. why do the local TV networks alone think it is their job to forcefeed us weather coverage during these storms? If I'm in my house reading a book, sleeping, or just don't have any tv or radio on, then I'm in the same boat as if there were no warnings on TV. I just have to listen for sirens, or have a weather radio, or sign up for an alert, or just be observant. I can handle that. If you feel you must provide a public service to save my life, give me the crawl at the bottom of the screen and you're still making me safer than if I'm watching a dvd I rent from blockbuster, or surfing the web or reading a book or playing board games - right? Just give me my shows. This is weather sensationalism for ratings and as a consumer I have other choices so I just have to turn off ktul and get my shows delivered some other way.

Life over TV Shows
Why do we complain about meterologists doing there job and keeping you safe. You would complain if they did not interupt showing for a tornado that was heading for you and your family. There are many more things important in life that mean more then a TV show. Heck if you can not stay up until 10:30 watch online anytime or get into the digital age a get a DVR if they mean that much to you. I commend all the Meterologists, storms chasers and any one involved in keeping me safe, because I have been in a tornado and worrying about a TV show was the last thing on my mind, "The safety of my Family was all I was worried about." Thank you

karon hermes

Well, what if we don't stay up past 10:30 on Saturday nights? What if some of us go to Church early on Sunday and what if some of us do not have TIVO etc?

I still don't buy your above explanation. You can still have someone from the weather team come on during the commercials AND run a ticker across the bottom. That would cover just about everyone.

From now on I will watch any other channel if a weather bulletin takes over 10 minutes.

KTUL Webmaster
Scott,

We currently have a 24/7 weather channel. But, it is currently available through our Digital Channel 8.2 or on Cox Cable. Most people outside of Tulsa do not have Cox Cable and until February of 2009, digital will not be available to all customers.

IBM
Couldn't you at least get some female meteorologists so we have something nice to look at?

Scott
Why not have Storm channel that people can turn to and regular programmming would not be pre-empted.

KTUL Webmaster
Jana,

The second I find out the airing times I will post it prominently on our home page.

Thanks Kevin

Jana
Yes, I want to be warned if I'm about to be hit by a tornado. It drives me totally insane to hear about rotation and paths over and over and over. And even crazier to hear all these stormchaser people who call in to say "I don't see anything right now", etc. HOWEVER, Kevin, I would like to thank you for the explanation you've provided and I do hope everyone hears or reads it. As I understand it now, if you don't talk over the entire freaking show, you'll never be able to re-air it and we'll never see what we missed. So I guess I'll thank you for realizing that these are shows that a lot of us don't want to miss and handling it accordingly. I guess my only suggestion now is that you give everyone plenty of warning as to when to set our DVRs. Yes, I can watch it on the computer, but I'd prefer the large screen and my sofa! Thanks for shedding some light here!!

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